A Symbol Of The "Obama-Elite"'s Hatred For America
University Of Illinois Professor: "Chanting 'USA!' Is Insulting"
David Green, University Academic Professional
September 15th, 2010 - 10:29 PM
The vast majority of 9/11 observances in this country cannot be seen as politically neutral events. Implicit in their nature are the notions that lives lost at the World Trade Center are more valuable than lives lost in Afghanistan, Iraq, Palestine and elsewhere; that the motives of the 9/11 attackers had nothing to do with genuine grievances in the Islamic world regarding American imperialism; and that the U.S. has been justified in the subsequent killing of hundreds of thousands in so-called retaliation.
The observance at Saturday’s football game was no different. A moment of silence was followed by a military airplane flyover; in between, Block-I students chanted “USA, USA.” This was neither patriotism nor remembrance in any justifiable sense, but politicization, militarism, propaganda and bellicosity. The University is a public institution that encompasses the political views of all, not just the most (falsely) “patriotic.” Athletic planners should cease such exploitation for political purposes. They might at least consider how most Muslim students, American or otherwise, would respond to this nativist display; or better, Muslims and others that live their lives under the threat of our planes, drones and soldiers.
The overwhelmingly white, privileged, Block-I students should be ashamed of their obnoxious, fake-macho, chicken-hawk chant, while poverty-drafted members of their cohort fight and die in illegal and immoral wars for the control of oil. University administrators need to eliminate from all events such “patriotic” observances, which in this country cannot be separated from implicit justifications for state-sponsored killing.
David Green,
University Academic Professional
Rather then me commenting on this lowlife, pompous, self-important jerk's condescending opinion, I will allow others from the University of Illinois' online school publication comment section to say it all for me.....
Mister Green you call yourself a University Academic Professional and accordingly you act as if you have no education at all in regards to the subject you chose to write about.
I would ask the "esteemed" Academic Professional where he has been or what he has done that would give him such an intolerant insight into this wonderful country that I have dedicated 20+ years of my life to protect? What makes you think that those Muslims who are US Citizens would not be chanting right alongside their Christian brothers? I challenge you Mister Green to debate with me, a simple non college educated soldier, to discuss the issue to which you have written a very bigoted and biased opinion about. I have traveled this planet and I have seen the best and the worst that it has to offer. I am proud to be an American Citizen and Soldier. I am proud of our country for being able to come together in times of need and work TOGETHER to heal. None of your wonderful EU countries offered near the amount of assistance that we have offered to them when tragedy fell on them. The USA stood united and overcame this terrible time on our own. Please prove to me sir where innocent Muslims and others live under threat of our planes, drones and soldiers. Those who live in fear of these and other weapons are those who should indeed fear the wrath of this mighty country. I've been there Mister Green and I have seen it first hand. Have you been anywhere that you could lose your life sir or have you lived a sheltered and bigoted existence your entire life?
My challenge is an open one Mister Green and you may contact me @ ASoldier67@gmail.com. As I close these words come to mind.....
"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."
I am one of those rough men who have allowed you the freedom to speak such incessant drivel as that on which I am commenting.
You say "The University is a public institution that encompasses the political views of all" yet you seek to silence the political views of those you disagree with, could you be any more intolerant ? Rather than set Muslim students up as the strawman in your article why don`t you say what you really mean ? You`re the one who is offended by the chants of USA. You believe the US got what it deserved on 9/11, just as the US got what it deserved when 6 people were killed in the first attempt to blow up the World Trade Center, just as the 241 US Marines that were murdered in their barracks in Lebanon in 1983 got what they deserved and just as the 17 sailors that died on the USS Cole got what they deserved. Not only are you an intolerant hypocrite you are a coward.
David Green exemplifies certain failings that are very common in academia: Ignorance, arrogance, and bigotry--not to mention a pathological hatred of America and a contempt for the soldiers who protect him as he lives his cocooned academic life.
I have met many academics over the years, and also many veterans: The average soldier is far wiser than the average academic, and a far more decent and civilized person. (Not to mention that soldiers have courage while your typical academic is a petty coward.)
"University administrators need to eliminate from all events such “patriotic” observances, which in this country cannot be separated from implicit justifications for state-sponsored killing."
Mr Green,
are you seriously advocating that people be silenced based on your political views? The last time we allowed people to be silenced based on our disagreement with them on political issues in my home country, Germany, the results were not at all pleasant. The final result was a dictatorship and the biggest industrialized slaughter of people the world has ever seen. In that sense, feel free to lambaste the chanters for what you perceive to be ignorance all you want, but do not dare demand they be silenced you ignorant buffoon.
Mr. Green, I have to assume from your stiff, arch, and self-important denunciation of outward expressions of support for the USA that you inhabit a world occupied by overpriced coffee, books of poetry and "literary criticism" read by virtually nobody else but other "academic professionals", and a rather permanent sense of injustice that you are not taken as seriously as you know you should.
Sorry, fella. You can't be taken seriously. I'm not going to suggest that you can't BE serious because there's too much pomposity in what you wrote, and too much disdain for those who sign up for military service. I'm sure you consider yourself vastly superior to those whom you pity for their "poverty-drafting" into the services, but this is because you have no doubt never even bothered to TALK to someone who is serving. If you had, you would be aware that although many people do sign up for the military because they are hoping to advance themselves for the future, that the vast majority of them are very proud of their service and more to the point, are doing it because they believe in helping not only themselves but their country. So you can sit in your mock turtlenecks, surrounded by your unreadable literary works, pontificating on your "view" of the world, but try being a little more humble for a change. Your hubris is killing those of us who live in the real world.
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A Symbol Of The "Obama-Elite"'s Hatred For America
University Of Illinois Professor: "Chanting 'USA!' Is Insulting"
David Green, University Academic Professional
September 15th, 2010 - 10:29 PM
The vast majority of 9/11 observances in this country cannot be seen as politically neutral events. Implicit in their nature are the notions that lives lost at the World Trade Center are more valuable than lives lost in Afghanistan, Iraq, Palestine and elsewhere; that the motives of the 9/11 attackers had nothing to do with genuine grievances in the Islamic world regarding American imperialism; and that the U.S. has been justified in the subsequent killing of hundreds of thousands in so-called retaliation.
The observance at Saturday’s football game was no different. A moment of silence was followed by a military airplane flyover; in between, Block-I students chanted “USA, USA.” This was neither patriotism nor remembrance in any justifiable sense, but politicization, militarism, propaganda and bellicosity. The University is a public institution that encompasses the political views of all, not just the most (falsely) “patriotic.” Athletic planners should cease such exploitation for political purposes. They might at least consider how most Muslim students, American or otherwise, would respond to this nativist display; or better, Muslims and others that live their lives under the threat of our planes, drones and soldiers.
The overwhelmingly white, privileged, Block-I students should be ashamed of their obnoxious, fake-macho, chicken-hawk chant, while poverty-drafted members of their cohort fight and die in illegal and immoral wars for the control of oil. University administrators need to eliminate from all events such “patriotic” observances, which in this country cannot be separated from implicit justifications for state-sponsored killing.
David Green,
University Academic Professional
Rather then me commenting on this lowlife, pompous, self-important jerk's condescending opinion, I will allow others from the University of Illinois' online school publication comment section to say it all for me.....
Mister Green you call yourself a University Academic Professional and accordingly you act as if you have no education at all in regards to the subject you chose to write about.
I would ask the "esteemed" Academic Professional where he has been or what he has done that would give him such an intolerant insight into this wonderful country that I have dedicated 20+ years of my life to protect? What makes you think that those Muslims who are US Citizens would not be chanting right alongside their Christian brothers? I challenge you Mister Green to debate with me, a simple non college educated soldier, to discuss the issue to which you have written a very bigoted and biased opinion about. I have traveled this planet and I have seen the best and the worst that it has to offer. I am proud to be an American Citizen and Soldier. I am proud of our country for being able to come together in times of need and work TOGETHER to heal. None of your wonderful EU countries offered near the amount of assistance that we have offered to them when tragedy fell on them. The USA stood united and overcame this terrible time on our own. Please prove to me sir where innocent Muslims and others live under threat of our planes, drones and soldiers. Those who live in fear of these and other weapons are those who should indeed fear the wrath of this mighty country. I've been there Mister Green and I have seen it first hand. Have you been anywhere that you could lose your life sir or have you lived a sheltered and bigoted existence your entire life?
My challenge is an open one Mister Green and you may contact me @ ASoldier67@gmail.com. As I close these words come to mind.....
"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."
I am one of those rough men who have allowed you the freedom to speak such incessant drivel as that on which I am commenting.
You say "The University is a public institution that encompasses the political views of all" yet you seek to silence the political views of those you disagree with, could you be any more intolerant ? Rather than set Muslim students up as the strawman in your article why don`t you say what you really mean ? You`re the one who is offended by the chants of USA. You believe the US got what it deserved on 9/11, just as the US got what it deserved when 6 people were killed in the first attempt to blow up the World Trade Center, just as the 241 US Marines that were murdered in their barracks in Lebanon in 1983 got what they deserved and just as the 17 sailors that died on the USS Cole got what they deserved. Not only are you an intolerant hypocrite you are a coward.
David Green exemplifies certain failings that are very common in academia: Ignorance, arrogance, and bigotry--not to mention a pathological hatred of America and a contempt for the soldiers who protect him as he lives his cocooned academic life.
I have met many academics over the years, and also many veterans: The average soldier is far wiser than the average academic, and a far more decent and civilized person. (Not to mention that soldiers have courage while your typical academic is a petty coward.)
"University administrators need to eliminate from all events such “patriotic” observances, which in this country cannot be separated from implicit justifications for state-sponsored killing."
Mr Green,
are you seriously advocating that people be silenced based on your political views? The last time we allowed people to be silenced based on our disagreement with them on political issues in my home country, Germany, the results were not at all pleasant. The final result was a dictatorship and the biggest industrialized slaughter of people the world has ever seen. In that sense, feel free to lambaste the chanters for what you perceive to be ignorance all you want, but do not dare demand they be silenced you ignorant buffoon.
Mr. Green, I have to assume from your stiff, arch, and self-important denunciation of outward expressions of support for the USA that you inhabit a world occupied by overpriced coffee, books of poetry and "literary criticism" read by virtually nobody else but other "academic professionals", and a rather permanent sense of injustice that you are not taken as seriously as you know you should.
Sorry, fella. You can't be taken seriously. I'm not going to suggest that you can't BE serious because there's too much pomposity in what you wrote, and too much disdain for those who sign up for military service. I'm sure you consider yourself vastly superior to those whom you pity for their "poverty-drafting" into the services, but this is because you have no doubt never even bothered to TALK to someone who is serving. If you had, you would be aware that although many people do sign up for the military because they are hoping to advance themselves for the future, that the vast majority of them are very proud of their service and more to the point, are doing it because they believe in helping not only themselves but their country. So you can sit in your mock turtlenecks, surrounded by your unreadable literary works, pontificating on your "view" of the world, but try being a little more humble for a change. Your hubris is killing those of us who live in the real world.
A Symbol Of The "Obama-Elite"'s Hatred For America
University Of Illinois Professor: "Chanting 'USA!' Is Insulting"
The vast majority of 9/11 observances in this country cannot be seen as politically neutral events. Implicit in their nature are the notions that lives lost at the World Trade Center are more valuable than lives lost in Afghanistan, Iraq, Palestine and elsewhere; that the motives of the 9/11 attackers had nothing to do with genuine grievances in the Islamic world regarding American imperialism; and that the U.S. has been justified in the subsequent killing of hundreds of thousands in so-called retaliation.
The observance at Saturday’s football game was no different. A moment of silence was followed by a military airplane flyover; in between, Block-I students chanted “USA, USA.” This was neither patriotism nor remembrance in any justifiable sense, but politicization, militarism, propaganda and bellicosity. The University is a public institution that encompasses the political views of all, not just the most (falsely) “patriotic.” Athletic planners should cease such exploitation for political purposes. They might at least consider how most Muslim students, American or otherwise, would respond to this nativist display; or better, Muslims and others that live their lives under the threat of our planes, drones and soldiers.
The overwhelmingly white, privileged, Block-I students should be ashamed of their obnoxious, fake-macho, chicken-hawk chant, while poverty-drafted members of their cohort fight and die in illegal and immoral wars for the control of oil. University administrators need to eliminate from all events such “patriotic” observances, which in this country cannot be separated from implicit justifications for state-sponsored killing.
David Green,
University Academic Professional
Rather then me commenting on this lowlife, pompous, self-important jerk's condescending opinion, I will allow others from the University of Illinois' online school publication comment section to say it all for me.....
Ignorance or Intolerance
Mister Green you call yourself a University Academic Professional and accordingly you act as if you have no education at all in regards to the subject you chose to write about.
I would ask the "esteemed" Academic Professional where he has been or what he has done that would give him such an intolerant insight into this wonderful country that I have dedicated 20+ years of my life to protect? What makes you think that those Muslims who are US Citizens would not be chanting right alongside their Christian brothers? I challenge you Mister Green to debate with me, a simple non college educated soldier, to discuss the issue to which you have written a very bigoted and biased opinion about. I have traveled this planet and I have seen the best and the worst that it has to offer. I am proud to be an American Citizen and Soldier. I am proud of our country for being able to come together in times of need and work TOGETHER to heal. None of your wonderful EU countries offered near the amount of assistance that we have offered to them when tragedy fell on them. The USA stood united and overcame this terrible time on our own. Please prove to me sir where innocent Muslims and others live under threat of our planes, drones and soldiers. Those who live in fear of these and other weapons are those who should indeed fear the wrath of this mighty country. I've been there Mister Green and I have seen it first hand. Have you been anywhere that you could lose your life sir or have you lived a sheltered and bigoted existence your entire life?
My challenge is an open one Mister Green and you may contact me @ ASoldier67@gmail.com. As I close these words come to mind.....
"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."
I am one of those rough men who have allowed you the freedom to speak such incessant drivel as that on which I am commenting.
Block-I chant portrays ‘neither patriotism nor remembrance’
You say "The University is a public institution that encompasses the political views of all" yet you seek to silence the political views of those you disagree with, could you be any more intolerant ?
Rather than set Muslim students up as the strawman in your article why don`t you say what you really mean ?
You`re the one who is offended by the chants of USA. You believe the US got what it deserved on 9/11, just as the US got what it deserved when 6 people were killed in the first attempt to blow up the World Trade Center, just as the 241 US Marines that were murdered in their barracks in Lebanon in 1983 got what they deserved and just as the 17 sailors that died on the USS Cole got what they deserved.
Not only are you an intolerant hypocrite you are a coward.
David Green exemplifies academia's failings
David Green exemplifies certain failings that are very common in academia: Ignorance, arrogance, and bigotry--not to mention a pathological hatred of America and a contempt for the soldiers who protect him as he lives his cocooned academic life.
I have met many academics over the years, and also many veterans: The average soldier is far wiser than the average academic, and a far more decent and civilized person. (Not to mention that soldiers have courage while your typical academic is a petty coward.)
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Free Speech?
"University administrators need to eliminate from all events such “patriotic” observances, which in this country cannot be separated from implicit justifications for state-sponsored killing."
Mr Green,
are you seriously advocating that people be silenced based on your political views? The last time we allowed people to be silenced based on our disagreement with them on political issues in my home country, Germany, the results were not at all pleasant. The final result was a dictatorship and the biggest industrialized slaughter of people the world has ever seen. In that sense, feel free to lambaste the chanters for what you perceive to be ignorance all you want, but do not dare demand they be silenced you ignorant buffoon.
Pompous Pontifications Promote Paroxysms of Laughter
Mr. Green, I have to assume from your stiff, arch, and self-important denunciation of outward expressions of support for the USA that you inhabit a world occupied by overpriced coffee, books of poetry and "literary criticism" read by virtually nobody else but other "academic professionals", and a rather permanent sense of injustice that you are not taken as seriously as you know you should.
Sorry, fella. You can't be taken seriously. I'm not going to suggest that you can't BE serious because there's too much pomposity in what you wrote, and too much disdain for those who sign up for military service. I'm sure you consider yourself vastly superior to those whom you pity for their "poverty-drafting" into the services, but this is because you have no doubt never even bothered to TALK to someone who is serving. If you had, you would be aware that although many people do sign up for the military because they are hoping to advance themselves for the future, that the vast majority of them are very proud of their service and more to the point, are doing it because they believe in helping not only themselves but their country. So you can sit in your mock turtlenecks, surrounded by your unreadable literary works, pontificating on your "view" of the world, but try being a little more humble for a change. Your hubris is killing those of us who live in the real world.
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